Removing all the tax bullshit, in my opinion, would be the final nail.

Haven't they achieved their major objectives? Meaning the two aren't really all that comparable?

I went to a Georgia high school that took math and science pretty seriously. People farther north are always shocked by that, as if we're all dumb fucks in the south. There are many redneck geniuses out there.

A lot of times they took a bigger risk driving there than they will from doing any particular treatment.

I've found that most people appreciate honesty and there are ways to deliver risk information that help people emotionally deal with them. And I've heard some providers explain low risk in unique ways. Like the other day I heard one telling someone that there's a risk her heart could stop, but that's he has done hundreds and never seen that happen. Obviously you only do that with someone who fits into the average (meaning they don't have some factor that puts them at a far higher risk), but it's a nice approach. People should be informed but with expertise to balance it. The risk of death isn't the same as risk of benefit or whatever.

We seem to be going backward. Probably because of food and other environmental factors. You also have to consider that being alive longer doesn't necessarily mean you'll have a meaningful existence. I'd rather die at 80 than be bed bound and make it to 100, for example. Modern medicine has made it to where we can string people along longer, but not necessarily improve their quality of life along with lifespan. I see it frequently in the hospital. Now if I can be 150 and look, feel, and live like I'm 50, that's a different story.

I'm just using the medical perspective because that's what I'm most used to. Context probably matters

The benefits *may* outweigh them. Most people who take drug X improve and live happier lives. A few died. Maybe we know why, maybe we don't. Is it a risk? Yes. Should your doctor lead with that? Probably not unless it's a pretty high percentage. Like a surgery that's 50/50 you might die but the way you're living is worse. It's a tough ethical problem. On the one hand informed consent is important. On the other, putting side effects like death into the conversation may cause unnecessary suffering.

And what's funny is a bar lasts me 3-4 weeks. The covid era shortages broke me 😂

I don't know for sure. But I do think it's ridiculous to scoff at the idea of intelligent life existing elsewhere in the universe. We are literally that exact thing. So it's obviously already happened once.