your reply is definitely more down to earth than mine, I would argue as a constructive criticism the following: - you called him a "narcissist" which he still might be, and yet you are making it into an ad hominem, by criticizing the way you perceive his character rather than criticizing his arguments (I was somewhat prickly myself, but against the arguments rather than the person) - I would argue that they are in fact *not* asking for permission, they are just pushing and pushing and pushing a certain version of the facts and of the philosophy of bitcoin in order to make noderunners store their garbage - your point regarding the "free cloud service" doesn't work too well, because it is not free, rather at a flat one-time mining fee, but I get the meaning of that and it has merit What the "YOU ARE CENSORIIIINNGGGHH!!" bunch doesn't do, ever, is DEFINE what censorship really IS. If they defined it, they would need to admit that they are "censoring" dissent on the bitcoin core github repo way more than any knots operator is censoring shitcoins and degeneracies on his own hardware.

Let's deconstruct the above WALL OF TEXT WARNING 1) "Resist the cancel culture purity brigade and their moralizing mob mentality attacks on Bitcoin. " "Cancel culture": like the canceling of limits on the OP_RETURN? "Purity brigade": like the "pure uncensorability" excuse people use to enable trash being recorded on the blockchain? "Moralizing mob": like the "you're just censoring transactions you don't like!!!1one" attempt at moralization? "Attacks on Bitcoin": like opening the blockchain to potentially host whatever content the most sick minds can conceive? 2) "Our cypherpunk values are privacy, censorship resistance, and decentralization. We do not moralize, censor, or trust anyone's judgment of what constitutes a good or a evil transaction. We do not ask for your permission or for anyone's approval of our voluntary interactions. We do not accept your attempts to split our networks into good and evil. " "Cypherpunk values": like enabling controversial changes so existing dubious companies can play their own games on the blockchain? "privacy, censorship resistance and decentralization": decentralized like how you are blatantly annoyed that Core is not the only widespread node distribution anymore? I covered the censorship thing above, while the privacy is mostly irrelevant in this debate. "We do not moralize, censor, or trust anyone's judgment of what constitutes a good or a evil transaction": except you moralize, censor on github, and trust core devs' judgement about what bitcoiners should or should not do with their own nodes, lol "We do not ask for your permission or for anyone's approval of our voluntary interactions": ...nor of the decision to remove the filters on the software that node runners are expected to run on their hardware and internet connection, sure. "We do not accept your attempts to split our networks into good and evil": as in, "since we would be the evil ones in this case, let's just drop the good and evil distinction for good"? 3) "For cypherpunks, all bytes are equal and we welcome anyone to contribute to our anonymity sets and to our economic strength. " Bytes are philosophically, mathematically, and logically NOT equal by definition, unless they contain the same exact bits, and I am curious to hear what you mean by "economic strength" here, and especially know whose "economic strength" that is, not mine for sure, nor of anyone opposing this stuff. 4) "Our networks are open for anyone to join and participate. Our reliance comes from cryptography and the free market incentives of our networks. Our values are aligned with our strengths. " "Our networks are open for anyone to join and participate": I would very well hope that's the case, unless Core devs plan to cook something in that bans Knots nodes, which wouldn't surprise me in any case. "Our reliance comes from cryptography and the free market incentives of our networks": except the ugly stuff that could be placed in OP_RETURN wouldn't likely be encrypted, and the free market incentives you are referring to are probably the money that moved under the table. "Our values are aligned with our strengths": nice example of a Barnum statement. 5) "We will not negotiate with you. Your attempts to undermine Bitcoin's core principles will fail. " "We will not negotiate with you": thanks for confirming my impression that this is just a totalitarian play. "Your attempts to undermine Bitcoin's core principles will fail": interesting choice of words, but you probably misplaced the Saxon genitive a word too soon in there

lol man, fuck off form where? I'm fine exactly where I am and I absolutely won't do what you tell me, omg this is so wild

You're asking the real questions 😉

see that's the point, "the rules" that are being discussed, are "rules" that one party decided without negotiating them with the people who should be subject to those "rules", and it scares me that I have to explain this to "the calle"... actually it scares me most that "the calle" is sending strong statist vibes in his replies

how are you going to verify tho

And that is why I own no bitcoin whatsoever, only god knows what other people would do to me if they found out I had the hardest asset on the planet while they are starving from poverty because they got none. Let his be known, fiat power!

actually I bet her boss would love to fire most of those girls and hire men instead, but can't.

you forgot to say that war is peace, freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.

First and foremost, everything needs to be negotiable, otherwise it's a dictatorship. And then, please define censorship. If you come into my house to say stuff that I don't like (whatever that might be) and I push you out or make any attempt at preventing you from saying those things in my house, is that censorship? I say you don't have the slightest idea of what censorship really is.

Is this a rendering for Chrono Trigger's Glenn?

that's not a good analogy, the state doesn't mandate the way to assemble a toiler paper roll in your own bathroom.... SO FAR

Do you prepare it on your porch? Or, how do you deal with the smell in the house?

fight for what?

refurbished laptop.

Why wait if this is ready?

well I do, but I still use toilet paper before that.... eugh!!

Yes I am definitely grateful to myself.

"...brought anarchy to this country"? If only, if only...