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Thanks... no worries. My main contention is that it seems that IQ aims to measure computational horsepower - but I would say it fails to do so, and that it is foolish to measure such a limited aspect of human experience, or at least to use that myopic measure as a catch all for 'smart.' Smart to me is able to do well in life. Doing well in life is creating value and solutions and smart children. I suppose that's why I believe injecting defenseless children with untested products is the opposite of smart. You might notice that the malthusians project. Sorry if off-topic.

Yes, I went with the phrase for effect, which is a poor choice of words, and I agree it's inaccurate. There's nothing that makes a pharmaceutical intervention advocate more angry than if a person questions their unassailable right to intervene. Too rarely will there be calm reasoning or attempt to explain, and when there is, it will be accompanied with a weariness built from many such conversations. The alternative is that they are wrong, and the medical system selects for personalities that don't apologize. The ones I resent are accustomed to a labcoat earned throne, and wear "You shouldn't question me" everywhere. And yet a better translation is: 'You shouldn't defend your child, use logic, seek evidence for life changing decisions, or respect the scientific method." I have far more respect for the local street drug dealer, who would help me understand what he's selling. IQ is not a full measure of the truly desirable aptitudes anyway, it leans too much toward a measurement of workforce skills for foolish systems. The point I should have made, about the pharmaceutical program engineers, is that those who are capable of knowingly selling poisons for profit do so with the rationalization that anyone dumb enough to take their poisons deserve it. It is hard for good people to believe that bad people are as bad as they are, or that a society-wide system could be so insidious and self-driving. I am thinking that 'test of disagreeableness' is not a good description. Certainly that dimension of personality can help one make the right choice, or disagree with the doctor in a social setting, but I happen to score very low on disagreeableness. Moreso in prose on the internet though :D You hit on something central to the issue with autonomous vs herd thinking, and I would agree that university can foster bad thinking. There are graduates who see through the bullshit, but they seem to be more rare. Part of the problem is that it is kids at the top of their classes to start, and then the ones that finish are the ones that survive in a) a social system b) a system that rewards compliance. Then the result is that they have a set of knowledge they have to believe is worth the debt and time they paid for it. To invalidate their own institution is to invalidate all that, and their parents who sent them there, and the professors who taught them, to say nothing of the mascot they root for. For those who never attended, it is not so far uphill.

I derped but I see what you mean now. Signal good for secure text off NOSTR. Telegram for wider adoption perhaps, fairly secure. On NOSTR, how about OxChat? I'm impressed w/ it and it has encrypted private text chat like Signal, and also NOSTR DM's built in. wdy think?

Worse yet, many credible skeptics still qualify their own opinions to avoid being labeled, 'I'm not an anti-vaxxer' like 'I'm not a conspiracy theorist'. Well, I'm an anti vaxxer and a conspiracy theorist. Its an IQ test. Malthusian population control sociopaths make money off of people who they view as deserving of whatever recently introduced products they are willing to inject into their babies. No? Well if that's not true, they would be able to easily convince us with clear evidence from impartial studies. The burden is not on me. Its on the interventionist advocate. They can't justify their shortsighted theory, they use appeals to authority and fear tactics and victim blaming instead. They are pharmaceutical salesmen, useful idiots at best. Eat healthy food, exercise, care for babies. like humans have always done. home birth or dont have babies. IMO adult epidurals are understandableadult and probably preferable. imo

Dynamic complex systems vs deterministic rules based systems apples to oranges.

Been thinking about this a lot, I think partly because it is a way to live out the principle that free choices by individuals work better than state power to solve public issues. Ron Paul stuff.

It's not all people though, it's coordinated bot armies for bandwagon effect. Just like Biden never had 50% of the country, the only weapon they have is distorting perception of the honest / naive.. That's why principles over popularity is so important. Also the lesson of Covid.

I'm thinking of what could be done to bring book links where books are being mentioned *without spam. All I've come up with is an opt in Shopstr client that renders book titles. I see and like that purchases support a humble local bookstore? How's it work?

Your fallacy is that time spent is to convince you. There is no reason to believe ideologues (whose arguments about tech aren't technical) will change their minds. It is spent to fix what your claims have broken, and to remedy untruth and misunderstanding among non-ideologues who act in good faith, dont make it all about themselves and their emotions. Just because you have a nonreasoned reaction (or worse, can imagine someone else might be reacting) doesn't mean someone else should address it.

It serves a need: agenda driver, water cooler talking point trainer, ingroup validation via snark.

This is the one reason I've missed Facebook... to see how acquaintances reacted.

Well, since a select few have had them for who knows how's long (Get Smart?) what else should we do?

Open a window! oh wait, you're in AZ... close a window! 😆

So the value proposition is pay with bitcoin lightning, and not on Amazon, not a niche curation / collection?

Good point, I've not seen that distinction made anywhere, but I actually find it easy to draw the line. Fear of loss of status is something that does not enter my thinking on big decisions, typically to my detriment.

I'm shocked by how few nostriches zap 1 or two sats instead of emojis. Panhandling is a better recommendation at these ratios. #provemewrong

Whatever drove up the price between 2020 and 2021...

It varies by individual, and existence of tits.