I like it in the reverse, but not how you put it, i.e. im able to generate sub ID's for various purposes on the fly that a client/signer is able work with via derivation; making me just having to handle 1 keypair (with the trade off that in case of compromise/loss, i fuck up all that stuff as well) The main issue with what you are proposing is that it breaks the assumption much of everything works on here, and that is everything resolves around a particular npub. Instead, you put in this extra step required having to run some xpub derivation stuff to see if some pubkey potientially means something else i would otherwise not be aware of. So in other words, what on earth do i query if i look for your stuff? Do i query a range of derivations? Do relays do that for you? You just broke the whole straightforward pointer basically

Oh PS. Insofar the discussion is about private messaging specifically; everything sucks, there is no sollution, talk to eachother in person.

Look all of us here get a hard-on for p2p, but the point is that we also realize it just does not work. To quote the innitial post on Nostr by fiatjaf: "It doesn't rely on any trusted central server, hence it is resilient; it is based on cryptographic keys and signatures, so it is tamperproof; it does not rely on P2P techniques, therefore it works." Now i don't understand why you would compare a federated system with Nostr, because they are different. I also don't understand what you mean when you effectively say that webservers don't scale, that seems to be a demonstrably false notion. I don't think you actually understand what the idea behind Nostr/relays is, combined with a remaining fetish for p2p (we get it, we have all been there, and to some extend part of us will always remain there). Maybe it will click for you one day, maybe not. Have a nice day

You left places; by using Nostr you did not enter another one, you just gave yourself the means to be at, or shape yourself, any place you want. Goodluck

Took me a while to dig this one up. Ok, bedtime forreal now

What makes Nostr different from most other attempts is that it took two bold choices and a boring one. The first bold move was to put cryptography at the center; The second bold move was to let go of any attempt or pretense of a "global state"; The boring safe move was to pick JSON. I once posted that Nostr is a verb, and that is because it is all human action. There is no system that guarantees you anything, beside perhaps the (assumption of) integrity of keypairs. The result is that at every turn, we will need webs of trust to solve the issues we encounter; which is ultimately the flexible extension of dicernment, a social phenomena. As such, I posit that Nostr is the first true social medium, and perhaps that is the boldest thing of all. Nostr. (Ceterum censeo NIP-03 omnibus esse utendum)

So, to reiterate the article i made about rotation. I hate it, because you just work under the same base assumption the key (in this case the main/root) key is not compromised. Sure sure, i get it, it provides some granularity in security and use-frenquency and stuff. But at the end of the day, the entire scheme crumbles when the root key is compromised, and now you are arguably in a worse postion because you are in some race condition against your attacker whilst the outside world has this false sense of sense-making; diligently following the steps thinking they end up at the real you at the end of the yellowbrickcryptoroad. So why not say fuck 't, and stick to the 1 keypair, and transition to another one, using social cues as to who the real you is. Anyway, people might disagree, but after a long time of headache filled pondering this stuff i concluded that this type of scheme thinking is a trap. I still have to write my responce to ....but first, some sleep.

Nostriches, and its not a platform.

Don't spoil it with the obvious answer.

I am not being glib here, Primal is the number 1 argument against Nostr I come across. I don’t really have a response against the argument either, other than hoping that Primal changes or it eventually becomes a marginal client. But at this moment, all we have is promises while it probably is the most popular client out there. For those not aware, Primal does not use relays on the input side, although it does on the output side. This means that it connects to a caching server, not a relay, and you will only see what is on there. If someone references an event that is not on that server, even though relay hints are included, tough luck; the only redeeming factor is that those outside of this primal box will see your complaint you can’t see the event. These quirks resulting from Primal being Notes and other stuff transmitted by cashing-server, instead of relays are annoying, but the most worrying part is the fact that its a real manifestation of the biggest fragility Nostr has as a protocol: Clients ignoring the spec and the design philosophy of openness and interoperability while being in a dominant popular position. I can make arguments all day about the theoretical merits of Nostr, but they are easily undermined by pointing to Primal. What am I supposed to say in response? More theoretical notions like people being able to change software, even though we know that is just not going to happen? I understand people will retain their profile, social graph, posts etc. if they move to another client, but as it stands those just become excuses for Primal to be a bad actor; how about just fixing your shit, so I don’t have to manually broadcast my stuff so people in the Primal-box can see it, but above all I can argue for Nostr without having to concede that the censorship resistant theory is not living up to practice.

The FROST bunker that is out there basically, you would have to run your own version of that. Im not aware of any project that streamlines this stuff, but the basic compoments are there

I think only by self declaration, but not in some special proofable way

I don't have any children, but appearently the struggle is real

You have to give them credit, one upon a time they basically said 'go make your own social media', now they are friendly enough to give you the tools to do so 🤷‍♂️