Incorrect definitions. What does decimate mean? I wish people would learn what words mean before using them. Most people incorrectly think it means something like "suffer sever damage" or "completely destroy". The original meaning of “decimate” (from Latin decimare / decimatio) is to remove or kill one in every ten (from decem, “ten”). In the Roman army, it was a rare but severe collective punishment applied to units guilty of major offenses. Such as mutiny, mass cowardice, or mass desertion. How it worked The offending soldiers (often a cohort, maniple, or larger group) were assembled. Lots were drawn so that roughly one-tenth were selected at random. Those selected were then beaten or clubbed to death (fustuarium) by their own comrades. The survivors typically faced additional humiliation: barley rations instead of wheat, and being forced to camp outside the fortified camp. #decimate #etymology #definition #ignorance #LanguageDrift #history #Roman #Legion #Punishment
I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to hell. The third day he rose again from the dead. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty. From there he will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic* church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen. *that is, the true Christian church of all times and all places #ApostlesCreed #ThirdDay #Creed https://youtu.be/i3i-_VWxOAc?is=kt3a0FhXifv0GQxw
"But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!" -Galatians 1:8-9 Mormanism and Islam share this trait. ___________________________ MORE IN DEPTH Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons/LDS) Belief : Teach multiple gods (not the eternal, uncreated divine trinity) God was once a man Mankind's eternal progression to godhood (men can become gods) Baptism for the dead (attaining salvation for unrepentant dead ancestors) Claim that the original Scriptures of the Bible have been corrupted. Joseph Smith produced his own revision (the Joseph Smith Translation or JST), which changes or adds thousands of verses. Significant portions of the JST are canonized in the Pearl of Great Price (e.g., Moses, Joseph Smith—Matthew) and appear as footnotes or appendices in the official LDS KJV edition. Additional scriptures (Book of Mormon, etc.) that contradict the biblical canon. Continuing revelation of their prophet has equal weight to the Bible. Criticism: (Nature of God, other gods, becoming gods) Isaiah 43:10 — “Before Me there was no God formed, and there will be none after Me.” Isaiah 44:6, 8 — “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides Me… Is there any God besides Me, or is there any other Rock? I know of none.” Isaiah 46:9 — “I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me.” Psalm 90:2 — “Before the mountains were born or You gave birth to the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.” Malachi 3:6 — “For I, the LORD, do not change…” (additional scriptures, continuing revelation) Galatians 1:8–9 — “But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!” Revelation 22:18–19 — "I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book." Deuteronomy 4:2 — "You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you." Proverbs 30:5-6 — "Every word of God is tested; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. Do not add to His words or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar." (baptism for the dead) It is too late to repent after you die... Hebrews 9:27 — “It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment.” Luke 16:25-26 — "But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.’ "
The Voluntaryist Patriot Home Divisions "Now I exhort you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all agree and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment. For I have been informed concerning you, my brethren, by Chloe’s people, that there are quarrels among you. Now I mean this, that each one of you is saying, “I am of Paul,” and “I of Apollos,” and “I of Cephas,” and “I of Christ.” Has Christ been divided? Paul was not crucified for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?" - I Cor 1:10-13 My personal opinion is this: Denominationalism within the Christian church runs contrary to Biblical teaching. You either follow Christ or you don't. There is no other criteria that should define being a Christian. Heresies & secondary issues have divided the church for the last 2000 years. Speaking to the secondary issues, the Bible is very clear about some things while others are not so clear. Salvation is not one of the unclear things. The nature of Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and God The Father is not unclear. The way you should live your life is very clear. These are the primary defining elements of being a follower of Christ. Everything else is either a clarification or a secondary issue. Schisms have happened and denominations have formed over these secondary issues since the very beginning. Brothers and Sisters this should not be so. "Therefore I, the prisoner of the Lord, implore you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love, being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all." - Eph 4:1-6 We are ambassadors of Christ while we remain here on Earth. We are representatives of the Family of Christ. Jesus said, "If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand." - Mark 3:24-25 If our Messiah Himself made it a point to say this then it should be taken seriously! Paul said, "And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual men, but as to men of flesh, as to infants in Christ. I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able to receive it. Indeed, even now you are not yet able, for you are still fleshly. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking like mere men? For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not mere men? What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, even as the Lord gave opportunity to each one." - I Cor 3:1-5 This is something that has weighed heavily on my heart for years. We should be united, not divided. I do not claim any denominational affiliation for just this point. I will not further divide or endorse the division of the church. It breaks my heart that our family is so splintered and broken. I ask God to heal these fractures and restore our Church Family. Jesus Come Soon, we need you... Maranatha. #Christ #Bible #Denomination #Split #Schism #Salvation #Divided
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These things are admirable goals. I am not sure how to accomplish them long term in today's world. We should try. They are good targets and steps towards them are steps on the right direction. The problem is not ultimately the system of governance but rather the nature of the governed. Any system put in place will eventually become corrupted because of those participating in it. This is not defeatist. It is reality. You can not force faith, but you can force conformity. It would not give salvation, but this is not necessarily a bad thing. What is being forced? "Thou shalt not murder" would be a good example. It is very easy to shoot ideas full of holes and watch them crash and burn. It is much harder to work towards a solution. A step in the right direction is better than failure to act because the step isn't perfect.
Just about everything you said resonates well with biblical teachings. But you failed to address the original statement: let's debate Cristian Nationalism. What is it? Is it good or bad? Why? As points out in his intro, all law is based on morality claims. If you are opposed to Christian morality claims, then what would you use it their place? Why? Where did they originate? What makes them better? There is no other definitive basis for morality than that of a higher power. Every other basis is only opinion. There is no other higher power that I will accept as authoritative. So, what do you think?
People always weaponize any institution people control. Government is not the aberration
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For the moment, let's leave religion out of this discussion. I will come back to it later. All Humans(people), by nature, have the same rights; not dependent on when, where, how, or what gender they are born. These Rights supersede all national affiliations and national laws. These are natural laws. They existed before there were governments and will remain after. First and foremost, All people own themselves. All people are entitled to the fruits of their own labor. All associations, transactions, contracts, agreements, sales, etc. of Any kind, for Any reason must be voluntary. (Non-Aggression Principle or NAP - Aggression/Coercion should not be used to force anyone to do, say, or agree to Anything. The ONLY time aggression may be used is in the defense of the life and rights of yourself (or others) from another party initiating aggression.) Theft of any kind is wrong. These represent my ETHICAL stance on way human society should be. I understand that this model of society does not exist on any large scale today and may not come to exist in my lifetime, but this is something to strive towards. _________________ So, what does this mean and how did I come to these beliefs? Human beings, by nature, have the right of Self Ownership: Nobody else can decide for you how you should live your life. Only You can decide what's best for you. There is no other person, no human authority, higher than yourself in your life. If you own yourself, then every other human being also has that same Self-Ownership. Therefore, You have No right to act as an authority on someone else's life without their consent. You can not tell someone else how to live their life without their consent. You can not use force or coercion on another person in any way, except in the defense of the life or property of another. THINK HARD HERE IF You have no RIGHT to dictate to the life of another person, THEN you have no ability to convey that right to somebody else (e.g. through an election, etc.) For Example: You have no RIGHT to take something that is mine. Since you don't have the RIGHT to take my stuff, you can not give that right to someone else to use on your behalf. So, you can not bestow the RIGHT (which we have already decided you don't have) on the government and call it a Tax. The concept of governance is that the people being governed confer their rights upon authority figures to act on their behalf VOLUNTARILY. But, you can only give what you already have. You CAN NOT confer to another person a right that you do not already have to use/exercise on your behalf. If you are NOT a voluntary participant in a nation, an agent of the government (tax collector, police officer, etc.) can not legitimately come to your house and have the RIGHT to take your stuff because nobody who voted for this person or put that person in charge had the authority to grant that right to begin with. Voluntary Associations: No person should be forced to participate in anything that they do not want to be a part of. That includes but is not limited to: Governments Religions Marriages Armed Forces Businesses Clubs or ANY OTHER group or activity for any reason. If you agree with these beliefs, if you share this ETHICAL stance then you might be surprised to know that you are an Anarchist/Voluntaryist. _______________ I used to say that I am proud to be an American. You can be proud of the people in your country, proud of the accomplishments and advances her people have made, and at the same time recognize that there are flaws inherent to the system. I think that our country was founded on good principles, but, over the years, these principles have been sidelined by the corporate and political interests of this world. At the time this country was conceived there were a great many difficulties to be overcome but there were fewer rules and laws. We believed in individual liberty and created a nation to protect that liberty. The founders did their best, but just as with all other things in this world, advances have been made and new ways of thinking have emerged. The founders did what they thought necessary at the time, but I highly doubt that they would be pleased at what their creation has become. Now, instead of listing the things we are Not allowed to do, it seems we list the things we Are allowed to do. The laws and regulations in place today are oppressive, tyrannical, and unnecessary. The "taxes" the government steals from us are excessive. The "taxes" collected from us are not put to good or even effective use. The use of our armed forces to promote our ECONOMIC interests is deplorable. Our whole system is CORRUPT. IN SHORT, we have turned into the very monster we fought so hard to escape. This Country is in dire need of a MAJOR shift in the way we do things. It is inevitable. If we don't fix the problem, the whole system is going to burn down on its own. And on its way down we will lose more and more of our liberty until it gets to the point where ANYTHING that the powers-that-be offer us will be better than our current situation. I believe that it is still possible to make a difference from within the system, but that it will not happen, so I prepare for the worst. The average American is blind to the problem. The average person cares less about freedom and more about security. Most people these days won't complain unless there is some major shift from their comfort zone. The average person would rather be told what to do than take control of their own fate, make their own decisions, and live with the consequences. They are Sheep. ___________ I am a Christian, not because my family is Christian or because all the cool people are Christian, but because I made that choice for myself after deep thought and study on the subject. Nobody forced me to make this decision. It is not POSSIBLE to force someone to be Christian/Muslim/Buddhist/etc. It is a belief one has. ________________ Do I think that there should be laws prohibiting behavior that I find immoral? Ethically, insofar as it does not involve anyone else or their property then No. As a Christian then yes there are some behaviors that I would be OK with punishing. Speaking specifically about the United States: I think that the foundation of this country is and always has been Christian. The writers of our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and all the corresponding individual State documents knew this. They felt that they did not need to explicitly state it because it was so obvious. I think that they did us a disservice. They should have explicitly stated that our ethics, our laws, and our way of life are all bound by, and a consequence of, belief in Jesus the Christ, the Son of YHWH God Almighty. They should have forbade the substitution of any other religion or lack thereof for the basis of our laws and societal structure. It may have helped mitigate some of the corruption, decadence, and evil that now pervades every aspect of our nation. Any serious examination of the history of our founding and those involved can come to no other reasonable conclusion. Our country has Christian roots. I have changed my views over time. I once took the position of accepting the status quo. I have decided that is not good enough. It's not good enough because it concedes defeat. It compromises where there should be no compromise. Government has few legitimate responsibilities: Protect Life, Liberty, & Property Prevent Evil and promote Good where possible. If you can not define Evil and Good objectively then you can not fulfill the second responsibility. If our country is to have any hope of survival, this is the only path I can see... __________________ Render unto Caesar... I pay my taxes. I don't want government thugs breaking down my door and hauling me off to a cage because I didn't want to let them steal the fruits of my labor. As long as the situation remains the same here I will continue to pay my taxes.
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