Ah. That I can agree with, for sure. That's sort-of a Jumble quirk in general, though. When scrolling through a feed, you can't tell if there have been any interactions with an OP whatsoever. Only once you open the note does Jumble load that info. So I guess I have just gotten used to not having that info prior to clicking in Jumble. Some indication of whether any quotes of that post could be found would be good. Or maybe the tab only shows up if there are quote posts?

No? Could be interesting for seeing various perspectives on a particular note.

I just looked that brand new npub I created up on all of those clients, and I have the option to follow it, even though it has no kind 0 event anywhere. Amethyst: Nostrudel: Snort/Phoenix: Coracle: Kind 0 unable to be found via Luminostr, since I never created one:

Doesn't matter. I could have created it with dice-rolls in my bathroom. As soon as you have a public key, you can add it to your kind 3. You might need to use a tool like NAK or Nostrudel's note publisher to manually edit your kind 1 if searching for the npub in a client doesn't let you follow it. What are you specifically testing for, though? Kind 0 profiles shouldn't just exist on a WoT relay. Those are meant to be spread far and wide, so you can always just create a profile for the new user that is saved to a few public relays before following the user to add them to the web-of-trust.

Depends on the client. I just spun up this npub, without creating a profile, and I can follow it without issue on Coracle:

How is the problem changed in any way in that scenario?

Thank you! Video clients especially are not going to get much traction without the ability to easily filter videos. That said, you shouldn't need to leverage WoT relays in order to implement WoT on the client side. Check with for how he implements it in Coracle. It doesn't rely on WoT relays at all. Indeed, his implementation predates their existence. If you still want to use WoT relays as the basis of your implementation, though, you can probably find a more complete list of WoT relays by visiting https://nostr.watch/ then adding "Software" to your filter options and select "bitvora/wot-relay". Looks like there's about 30 of them, currently.

Ummm... They don't need to already be on your WoT relay for you to be able to follow them... When you follow someone, you are just adding their public key to your list of follows on your kind 3 note, and what relays they are on or not on doesn't matter at all.

Mutiny? Thought they shut down... At any rate, anything self-custody, like Phoenix, is going to have a bit more cost to set up, because there is an on-chain transaction involved, and you may also have LSP fees for them locking up liquidity to you, so you can receive right away. I agree that custodial is fine for zapping. Primal's wallet is provided by Strike, and you can use it for zapping AND as a regular lightning wallet for any other type of lightning transaction. It's not a terrible option, though they are required to obtain some KYC since the wallets are provided via Strike, which is a regulated money transmitter. If you want something you can sign up for without KYC, check out or .

Doing it manually? Yes. But who says it needs to be done manually? It wouldn't take much to write a program that could generate a few thousand Nostr accounts and create kind 3 notes following several legit accounts along with following each other.