Seems to me that most people using phrases like «not really decentralized» are hardly better than people saying «not real communism». Question isn’t even whether it’s sufficiently decentralized, but whether it *can be*. There’s always a slide towards centralization, because it often pays off for the centralizers. That’s fine. What you need is a mechanism for decentralizing when it gets out of hand.

People think honor cultures are bad, but that’s just because their cultures often are shitty. It’s like saying DVD-players are bad just because people mostly watch shit movies.

Honor cultures = social credit systems. Bottom-up, informal social credit scoring is necessary for civilization. We need to get back to that.

I would like to get my chat group off telegram. Should have the option to just clone that setup.