Proton on the news, again!? So let's bring it back!

Obviously they'd avoid using a different currency to transact as much as possible.

This comment, but I'm mostly talking about recieving funds online. A monero user wouldn't store any funds in Lightning, they simply swap what they recieve into Monero or swap out to make a transaction immediately. If I had problems with swap services or Spark knowing too much I'd roll funds out to other wallets. This is including both the LN or XMR side. For a long time I off-ramped zaps into other LN wallets or swapped them already.

McDonalds when they are requiring strict device integrity and OS enforcement they can be 100.00% sure that I like burgers

It gets people to gateway into Monero far easier. A lot of concepts people are familiar with in cryptocurrency spaces do not exist or matter in Monero either due to a different climate or technical differences. You definitely have to be a more technically inclined and aware person to use XMR (this can also be considered a merit) so I think having swaps to/from assets with greater mini economies greatly decreases the entry barrier.

The official microG OS project (https://lineage.microg.org) leaked their private keys for logging into their servers and signing releases: https://github.com/lineageos4microg/l4m-wiki/wiki/December-2025-security-issues We make our official builds on local machines. Our signing machine's keys aren't ever on any storage unencrypted. Our roadmap for improving security of verifying updates is based on taking advantage of the reproducible builds. We plan to have multiple official build locations and a configurable signoff verification system in the update clients also usable with third party signoff providers. We don't have faith in any available commercial HSM products being more secure than keeping keys encrypted at rest on the primary local build machine. Instead, we're planning to develop software for using the secure element on #GrapheneOS phones as an HSM for signing our releases.

XMR can be difficult to receive for new users. Having a lightning address to receive funds that can be swapped is significant. Lightning is very popular amongst smaller purchases and online stores. I buy a fair amount of living resources using ZEUS. I mention Nostr specifically since Nostr is almost entirely oriented around Lightning. Nostr clients oriented around other assets are often lesser maintained and more risky. These clients are a security haunted houses to begin with. Better to have some sort of LN address to receive and then swap for people into that imo.

Yes. Swapping opening up access to a lot of vendors in both teams to make private purchases with one another. Especially helpful at this current moment since on-chain BTC privacy features like Silent Payments are seldom adopted except for Cake Wallet and partially in Sparrow Wallet. SP to XMR swap far less likely to be than XMR/LNBTC as of right now.

No future devices based on current ones looking at as targets appear to be that small. Closest is the Motorola Signature which is 6.8, assuming the next gen successor is the same size as the Signature. The razr ultra is a little slimmer but 7 inches, but folds.

Lightning support in Cake Wallet should be huge for XMR nostr users

The device / OS pair is certified. It has some requirements that if the OEM follows them they are able to be certified. For example, Google services available, many as privileged components. While we have sandboxed Google Play that is still not sufficient. Some users don't have a play services implementation at all. So while some OEMs make awfully changed Android releases, ours is left in the dirt there. We don't try for Google certifications.

...you can argue that Windows was already full of sketchy bloatware without the OEMs bundling bullshit too. it's really sad to see what has been going on with Windows in recent times.

Imagine it is too late. Will be using the Qualcomm SOC secure element. OpenTitan also isn't built for Android (Titan M2 is based off of this), so there would have to be someone willing to manufacture secure elements and support the Android APIs, etc. Regardless this article is seriously great news.

There's nothing to mitigate in the first place. It has nothing to do with GrapheneOS or smartphones. Every Windows laptop vendor has bundled sketchy bloatware in the past and many still do in the present. Security research targets are encouraged, feel free to find something, anything, in these devices that you think are off. Use a non-Motorola device if you want to choose based on pure vibes or you don't like them for any other reason. If you're an OEM, contact us and work with us. If you really have to get to the details then Superfish is not installed by the firmware but was bundled operating system software and was trivially discovered. Obviously, there's no such thing that will happen here or GrapheneOS, it would be caught by our (very) vigilant users and I know I put the rep on the line saying that. >now these assholes control the bootloader, the baseband The bootloader is a standard littlekernel-based Android bootloader. The baseband is Qualcomm's, part of their SoC. Our device requirements on the site state explicitly radios must be isolated and that sensitive data cannot be accessed at the bootloader (working verified boot, zeroing memory left over from the OS, etc.), we are very conscious about that and received bounties for discovering and patching security deficiencies in bootloaders targeting Pixels that were exploited in the wild. We'll be having involvement in the driver and firmware side of things. Working to improve their security posture and harden their stock OS and firmware is part of the partnership.

I'm far from a bitcoiner... Strongly dislike maxi groupthink. That post is about funds being moved out of bitcoin and into monero. My following list is mostly devs or xmr. Not sure how praising an availability of a service to offload received funds into xmr is giving up ideals... unless the ideal was being bitcoin only or something? I think people can use what they want. A ton of privacy features for on-chain bitcoin like Silent Payments are just under adopted (most are just users of one wallet that is on a smartphone) that recieving LN and ramping out into Monero is a much more likely outcome. You're likely to get an LN or XMR address to send/receive to a merchant than a SP address today. Hope it changes. Nostr users are there because it is almost entirely centred around Lightning. The best clients for it are too. Monero oriented clients are often weird forks or too new to recommend anywhere for my taste. I'm pretty strict on keeping away from software that is new or experimental. I do want to see improvements on more wallets adopting SPs (big fan of Sparrow) and Nostr clients outside of bitcoinery though

We are absolutely open to more OEM partners providing they can produce the devices we need. They'd need to be very committed to helping us as we will have our time occupied working with Motorola as well.