Sometimes they're links, sometimes they're slow to load. The slowness seems client agnostic on my side, but my download speeds are ridiculously low. And I think links are just an exasperated byproduct of the slowness. It's relatively new. Your images have usually loaded fine for me.
Dawn8h
Dang, ok. No worries! It will tell me in due time, so long as I keep it alive ๐
Dawn9h
Is that why it's been so difficult to see your pictures lately?
Dawn9h
No, I was rambling to myself... but here it is:
Dawn18h
do you have any idea what my mystery tree might be? Beyond thinking it might be a malformed but enthusiastic apple, I'm stumped โจ๏ธ
Dawn20h
This stream combo is great... right up there with Sergio's bartending
Dawn22d
I'm making another gun rack. I found this beautiful piece of ash. So many patterns and colors.
Dawn20h
Yeah... chachi, habla, badges .page, and emojito are all 404
Dawn25d
Ok, so firstly... This is really long. Individual issue reports would be repetative and too narrow for what I think is a bigger problem. Most of this, is stuff I have been noticing as part of a recent & fast downtrend in client & ux quality that isn't contained to a single client but repeated throughout many, often the exact same bugs/flaws. A lot of these have been reiterated by other users. Some, I think are just neglected, overlooked, or unfinished things and maybe I am the only one who thinks they matter. We can blame AI models for most of these. It's always been obvious by UI which ones are being used to build or "improve" a client. Now it's becoming clear through bugs & patterns, too. Which is why I'm not tagging devs but naming some clients (if its listed a lot its because i use it a lot). I can't possibly test everything on every client, and I can't attest to anything built for iOS. I'm also doing this as a kind1 so other users can easily affirm, refute, or add to my laundry list. If any of this matters, it'll make it to where it needs to be. Here we go. I'm sorry or you're welcome. Not sure...
- Can't reliably mention: Type @..., select, continue typing. More often than not the mention collapses into an illegible mess of the string + display name + whatever was being typed.
Affected apps: Amethyst and Wisp
- Broken reactions: Custom reactions, hosted on Nostr Build & sent from Jumble render as 404 in other clients.
Long-press reaction sent from Wisp appears as blank in Amethyst.
Affected clients: too integrated for me to tell who's at fault
- No support for protected events or access to restricted relays & chat rooms makes your client feel broken. Maybe figure out how to hide them if you don't want to support them?
Affected clients: Amethyst, Wisp, Grimoire, RelayTools app
- Incomplete relay feeds: Comparison across clients yields very different results. Kind 6 is most often missing, other kinds are missing too, but less predictably. That gets into weird territory on kind support and all that, which is why reposts are an obvious example.
Affected clients: basically everything but Jumble & it's forks
- Painfully slow badic actions:
3-5 second delay before typing action appears in the text box. Content taking minutes to load, if ever.
Affected clients: Flotilla Android App, Flotilla desktop, Primal
- Intermittently cannot find my own content and chat groups, with little or no notice of poor relay connection.
Affected clients: Alexandria, Im Wald, Amethyst, Flotilla, Wisp (also specialty clients like ZapCooking, Habla, Boris)
- Incomplete follow feeds (realistically, not idylically): For some, performance of building the feed has drastically dropped over the course of a couple months. For others, it has been an ongoing issue.
Affected clients: Amethyst, Wisp, Yakihonne, Nosotros, Coracle
- Sticky deleted user lists: it is almost impossible to get rid of a list.
Affected clients: Anywhere lists are handled
- Predictive typing wakes up nip-07 extensions too fast on Chrome. One letter in the browser bar triggers permission requests. If I want to visit Yakbak, I have to deny permissions to Yakihonne 3x before I can type the rest of the url. Not sure what the best way to address this may be but it's annoying af.
Affected signers: Alby, Nos2x, haven't tried others recently. This is probably an adversarial situation, but one that will annoy casual nostr users, especially if they leave their extension enabled when doing non-nostr things.
- Creating lists a user doesn't want. It seems like every vibe-coded nip17 DM implementation does this.
- Poor resizing on mobile screens: Buttons half missing, text spilling out of borders, overlapping, etc
Affected clients: almost everything created with Shakespeare.
- Media uploading confusion: Blossom fallback flows work but they strip users of agency. Maybe reveal a failure message & fallback request, with skip. Payment for storage, limited capacity, and very public media host interfaces are all reasons for users to want control.
Affected clients: Flotilla, Wisp, Grimoire, Chachi, Jumble, I'm sure many others.
(On the topic of Blossom & media in general, defaults create a situation where people won't know where to look for or how to manage their media. Eventually they are going to want to revisit their files. First-use choice of defaults is better in the longrun than immediate defaults and it's a teaching moment.)
Uptrending problems that others are having, based on what I've seen on asknostr, in replies, and in DMs over the last 2-3 months. Most of these are problems that largely went away 2 years ago, but are becoming commonplace again.
- wiped follow lists
- wiped profile data
- wiped mute lists
- missing received zap receipts
- unable to load follows' profiles
- general spam replies
- hellthread notifications to people who have no clue what is happening
- harassment by report-bots, content "grading" bots, and un/follow bots
- trouble seeing and finding their own sent dms, notes & replies
- dead clients and resource materials that people were using, which have no obvious alternatives
On a much brighter note, now that DMs are working a little better in some popular clients, I'm learning that there are quite a few people who want to ask questions, learn, fix their issues, explore alternatives, etc. They just don't necessarily want to ask aloud... so we're working through user issues more effectively lately.
Dawn20h
๐คฃ great show. 2nd best stream ever.
Dawn27d
You can check it against Primal. This setup will change nothing about what you see there.
Dawn20h
The infamous earl grey dark chocolate ice cream...
I'm never buying ice cream again ๐
Dawn27d
It might be faster.. but you should see less spam.
Okay ๐คฃ try this:
W = write/outbox, R = read/inbox
wss://relay.damus.io -W
wss://nos.lol -W
wss://sendit.nosflare.com -W
To reduce reply spam but still be open to lots of replies, try:
wss://nostrelites.org -R
wss://satsage.xyz -R
With this, your "writes" will are bigger but fewer. The "reads" are a little smaller, but not community level small. If you try this & still get a lot of bot replies, let me know. We can try other, more restricted ones. Does that make sense?
Don't touch your dm relays for now ๐
Dawn1d
I don't think it's that simple.
Dawn1d
That's fair and honest. It is probably the case for many who just don't feel comfortable saying it aloud.
Dawn28d
Awesome, that's perfect... you're already halfway there. Before I go typing out a list of relays, is there anything specific you want to be different? Like, do you want to reduce spam replies on your notes? Or do you want to leave big relays completely (and not be seen by a portion of the people using them)? Or trim back on data consumption?
I've had a couple people end up disappointed because we went too restricted too quickly ๐ I don't want to do that again, so I'd rather try to tailor this to what you're wanting.
Dawn28d
I tagged you in a note out of this thread, so it's a little less chaotic ๐
Dawn28d
which clients do you use?
Dawn28d
It means that you can choose where you want to send your notes and where you want to receive your replies, reactions, etc.
On the other side, clients request notes to show followers and sends replies to where it's told, in order to be seen by you.
You can totally do it now. It just requires using one of the clients that works that way. (And, you would want to know what it means, so you can choose relays that best align with your desired experience. )
Dawn1d
I remember that. I sent you a few hand crafted ads ๐
Dawn1d
True marketing & advertising people won't apply their skillset until they see an opportunity to make money off of someone else making money... so instead you have a bunch of users with varying degrees of marketing skills, attempting solo guerilla marketing. Some loose organizing among those willing to advocate for various apsects could amplify the impact. Trying this with a few people, in our own way. We'll see how it goes. ๐ค