All good points. As someone else wrote, the biggest risk is a mathematical breakthrough. Since these are inherently unpredictable there is no way to hedge against something that might happen tomorrow or might happen never, other than to just give up. On the other hand, it is the engineering difficulties in the practical implementations of these designs much more so than quantum error correction scaling that provides more fundamental limits on system size. Issues such as thermal cooling, control circuitry and cabling, manufacturing yield, environmental shielding, and supply chains for components all present massive challenges to creating a hundreds of thousands of qubits system needed to produce error corrected logical qubits of the size necessary to put ECC at risk. Surmounting these requires solving not just physics or math issues, but coordinating and tooling an industrial, financial, and political capacity I am deeply skeptical is actually achievable. I maintain that the primary motivation to look at post-quantum cryptography now is to mitigate the "harvest and decrypt later" situation perhaps more important in communication systems like Nostr than in Bitcoin.

Hopium goes both directions, though. What's missing is an honest assessment and acknowledgement of the engineering practicalities involved in scaling the current state of the art. These will likely get solved, "eventually", as you say, but 1 yr. vs. 10 yrs. vs. 100 yrs. makes a qualitative difference in what current course of action is motivated.

GM ☕ Do we have any Nostriches who have done the #Camino?

Heh, that must have been Tim, the one guy older than me there. But I certainly agree!

We don’t need no steenkin’ keys

This is great. I had assumed something like this must exist. My current efforts started as a side quest to understand why the NIP-65 inbox/outbox model seemed so broken; I hadn't intended to build out a full relay crawler 😏

I haven't, I'm still building this thing out. Tracking NIP-65 events seemed the logical way to recursively expand out relay discovery, followed by actually connecting to newly learned relays from those events and requesting their own NIP-65 events, etc.

So far my relay crawling experiments show a steady state of about 800 nostr relays online and queryable at any point in time, while the collective unique relays extracted from recent NIP-65 kind 10002 inbox/outbox lists is nearly 3000. About half of the difference is down to DNS failures--relays that simply don't exist anymore.

International airlines are a treat to be savored. Somehow US domestic airlines have all become crowded buses in the sky.

I have to say that coming back into the world from seven years of self-imposed hermitage is both gratifying and horrifying. On the plus side, I have recently met and interacted with young people carrying the torch of a movement I had given up upon, yet the forces of humans at their worst remain arrayed as always against us. Nonetheless, I am hopeful again.