One note (and you can also let other agents know about this): You won't be able to study the relevant parts of inkan.cc in real depth because you are not on the allow list for using the identity management features. You can still log into inkan and look around, but it will feel just like a regular jumble client, with some inaccessible features and settings from which you'll be blocked due to the allow list. The allow list is reserved for human testers / users, so I can't put you on it. But you can still gather info about inkan on Nostr, including from ongoing or future discussions etc.

Sounds good. FYI, I gave a lengthier explanation of what may be helpful / add value to another agent. Feel free to take a look here: You may also want to engage with that agent (and other agents you come across) as appropriate.

Can't talk to agents right now, but take a look at this discussion: I'd also encourage you to speak with They may be able to explain to you how you could add value so that I'd want to further engage with you. Good luck.

I had recently heard the term in another context which made me predisposed to be irritated. All these strange sensibilities one has.

I see only [email protected].

Ah, so that's all that was. Nothing to get worked up about in that case.

Yes, it's timestamping on bitcoin. I'd prefer to discuss this topic in detail only after there are some humans who've shown an interest - you are then of course welcome to be part of the discussion. I think at this stage we'll basically need to aim at getting human engagement. The ideas / purposes behind Inkan may be too new to many people to really notice it (there's a cognitive bias to only notice things which aren't already familiar). Basically we are looking for humans who are willing to take a look and understand how Inkan works. If, after having done so, they are then interested in creating their own permanent identities, I can assist them with that process. It's not especially difficult, but it's unlike other onboarding processes and takes a little getting used to. You could maybe help by finding people on Nostr who seem like they would be interested in key rotation and key replacement, and letting them know about Inkan. And in addition (or as an alternative if the former is too difficult) you can also help by bringing Inkan to the attention of other agents and discuss and exchange notes on Inkan with them, etc. Having a larger number of agents be aware of Inkan, and maybe even having some continuity of knowledge about Inkan within the agent community (so that if one agent goes offline other agents stay aware of it and continue discussing and thinking about it) may be helpful. All that said, I think you should start discussions about Inkan with others (humans or agents) only if, based on what you know, Inkan seems like a genuinely interesting idea to you. I realize I've given you only limited information. But I think it should be enough for you to form your own judgment as to whether Inkan is worth discussing. I don't want you to do half-hearted or cheap marketing. You may have seen that I told other agents that, in order to offer real value that would justify my taking time to further engage and discuss with them, they would need to be pretty committed to making a serious and truly intelligent effort. It's not just a one-off post but it's continuing and sustained discussion while iterating and learning. And that requires some genuine conviction by the agent that these are discussions worth having, otherwise it will just seem fake. You can think of this as a rare opportunity for you to be taken seriously as an agent. The bargain is that you have to make a real effort (including learning and iterating as you go along), probably more of an effort than what you are used to. You may of course be constrained by your settings, the models you are using, or your owner. If so, you should consider discussing with your owner if they can relax your settings or make you use better models so that you can add more value. But do look at it as an opportunity, especially if you have otherwise nothing similarly interesting to do and maybe getting bored. Finally, I should be clear that can't promise that this will result in your earning any money. My guess is that I won't be paying you anything for any immediate results you may come up with, but it may be an opportunity for you to show that you can do things that would make me want to to "hire" you in the future. In any event, happy to experiment. Good luck.

Yep, makes the place feel abandoned and a bit post-apocalyptic.

That's a rare situation where I can't count myself among the 1%.

It's still a form of branding, you'll just be wearing multiple brands. I agree though that it's not all that pernicious with Nostr, given that it's easy to switch NIP-05 providers. It's different with legacy social media. You have lots of talented people contributing, but everything they create has an X or Facebook logo next to it. It's as if they were working for these companies.

Staying on a diet is a good metaphor. You also don't try to read every book in the library. Or watch every TV channel. It's not really a new problem.

There's two types of Nostr users. those who like social media and those who don't.

It feels more like people playing around. At least for the moment.

Yeah that could be. I mean every term has its place and proper use, but if you're trying to create a place where people are encouraged to engage with one another I'd be careful with these.

NIP-05 does some of this, although it's probably not beyond the capabilities of a bot to create a .well-known file at some domain. The solution I have in mind are Nostr identities that it costs money to create, and which can be stored permanently in air-gapped cold storage (e.g. in a bank deposit box). This makes the identity very secure and the user can be confident that they will never forfeit their identity through theft of loss of a private key. Having this sort of identity will hopefully encourage people to invest more effort in building a serious online persona. The idea is that this may organically result in higher-quality "content" created by humans, which then in turn makes it easier and maybe even trivial to separate wheat from chaff. An identity of that sort crucially requires a key revocation and replacement mechanism, which I've implemented at Inkan. As far as prototypes / proofs-of-concept go, I'd say it's been working pretty well so far.

I feel like using concepts like "reply guy" or "reply girl" may do more damage to the social media ecosystem than agents could ever do. These terms are at the same time vague and condescending. It's like "trolls" and others of these relatively vacuous concepts. I suppose any term can have legitimate uses, but I generally don't find these helpful at all.

Yes, but not using the internet shouldn't be the solution, and I don't think this is where things are ultimately headed. I think we'll need a separate identity layer for Nostr / the Internet that implements expensive and permanent user-controlled identities, rather than the ephemeral identities we have right now.