This condescending speech instead of acknowledging that there might be other reasons why people leave is part of what makes nostr unappealing The UX is so bad sometimes I'm basically only seeing people like you in my feed because everybody else left You want to circle-jerk how great your protocol is, while my notifications aren’t loading or when they load, they aren’t consistent across clients or straight-up inconsistent within the same client, the note to which someone is replying isn’t loading, I need to click for each reply I want to read because no client can render a whole tree of replies at once, SSR isn’t possible on nostr because the client fetches the content (else it’s not a nostr client), devs are telling users they need to configure more, less or different relays? Cool, do it without me These also aren’t just “client issues.” The protocol makes it hard to provide a good UX without Primal-style centralization (and Primal still suffers from very similar issues.)

Huh, SN is using the same server code with payload encryption for PWAs on iOS and Android. Weird that web push notifications are encrypted but not push notifications for native iOS apps? 🤔

See https://web.dev/articles/push-notifications-web-push-protocol#the_payload_encryption and the linked spec

aren't push notifications E2EE? so the APNS cannot see the content of the push notification?

None of what you said makes Monero harder to use privately than Lightning

Or at least a timer before the note actually gets sent

(I wrote “imo” twice. This is why I wish edits on nostr had consistent support across clients.)

Yeah I agree. IMO, he’s picking bad fights. There are many ways to attack Monero but to compare its privacy with Lightning and completely ignore the UX or how most people use Lightning isn’t the best idea imo

omg the link includes the ':' in Primal and Damus and therefore returns 404 ... here's the proper link: https://stacker.news/items/1237550

Hey , you might like this description of you by me in https://stacker.news/items/1237550: >> but I'll just have to trust either one of you's expertise > > no you don't. it's quite easy: > > you need to be online, open a channel, have inbound liquidity to receive on lightning (and it's still not private by default) > with monero, I could just paste an address in here right now and go offline > > supertestnet's arguments are based on what is *theoretically possible*, but for me, this just proves how hard it is *in practice* > > he's like a Final Destination movie character that prepared everything to cheat death > > and then when he almost died, he says: "see? it's very safe, I didn't die."

FYI, njump isn’t loading notes currently: https://njump.me/

Sorry that it’s not clear there are other territories, we‘ve been spending a lot of time on improving the UX of non-custodial / payment stuff. Improving territories is next on our list!

Looking forward to what you’re going to do, it’s a hard problem