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Josh
Josh 2d

"...make a tree bad and its fruits will be bad..." -Matt.12:33 Something that is *materially* good but done from an impure motive is not a good work. It does not please God. We have a lot of rutabagas in our garden. From all external appearances they look great. But when you cut into them they're rotten to the core. I don't consider them good vegetables, and we throw them in the field to rot. Any work done *for* justification is done from an impure motive that betrays a critical misunderstanding of the nature of God.

Josh
Josh 2d

I'm saying Satanists can't do good things.

Josh
Josh 2d

#justification

#justification
Josh
Josh 3d

👍Hope you'll read Perkins. Justification is the marrow of divinity.

Josh
Josh 3d

You are exactly right about Luther and exactly right that Canon 9 specifically rejects justification by faith alone (sola fide) and not justification by faith (which is what Rome holds). The disagreement is not over whether works have any place in the Christian faith, but it is over the place of works strictly in the matter of justification. Rome teaches that good works are necessary to justification, with the caveat that those works which are necessary to justification are worked in them by Christ, as a fruit of grace (as you said). Protestantism teaches that a man is justified by faith alone, apart from any works, but solely resting on Christ’s work accomplished for us (Phil 3:9; Titus 3:5). Rome teaches justification by infusion of righteousness; Protestantism teaches justification by imputation of Christ’s righteousness (Rom. 4:5, 8). For Rome, justification is a process; for Protestants, an instantaneous event. Protestants understand faith as a mere instrument, as an open hand receiving Christ’s righteousness; Rome conceives of faith as a meritorious work affording a person a title to justification (faith formed by love). We both agree that saving faith is never alone but will always work. Where we disagree is in seeing good works as the fruit of justification vs. seeing good works as necessary causes to justification. Faith produces good works of man, but faith itself is not a good work of man. As Luther said, “[Faith] is a work of God, not of man, as Paul teaches (Eph. 2:8). The other works He works through us and with our help, but this one He works in us and without our help.” -The Babylonian Captivity of the Church In the end, if the gospel is to remain good news, justification must be grounded solely on what Christ has done for us, and not on anything He does in us (Phil. 3:8-9). Here is the disagreement. What Rome teaches is actually a form of the Galatian heresy, wherein we begin by grace and finish with works (again, in the matter of justification), rather than the Christian gospel, which is all of grace and all of Christ.

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Josh 4d

You're welcome. I am referring to Rome when I say that. Canon 9 of the Council of Trent anathametizes anyone who holds to justification by faith alone. It is an explicit rejection of the apostles' teaching and of the only gospel that can save. If justification is not by faith alone, then it is of faith plus works; and if justification is of faith and works, then every man is effectively a savior to himself, the gospel is no longer good news, and Christ died for no purpose (Gal. 2:21). Rome may have a continuity of their institution, but they cannot claim a continuity of faith with the apostles in the matter of justification. It is the doctrine on which the church stands or falls, and Rome cannot stand. Happy to share more if you're interested.

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Josh 4d

Seeing a fair bit of this lately. Fleeing a superficial evangelicalism makes sense, but fleeing to a tradition that explicitly rejects the gospel doesn't. If you're considering such a move, at least make sure you're making an informed decision. William Perkins interacts extensively with Rome's claims, makes it clear where Protestants (Reformed Catholics) agree, and what constitutes the dividing line.

Josh
Josh 6d

Digging in. #philosophy

#philosophy
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Josh 15d

Is this for real? #nihilism

#nihilism
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Josh 15d

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