Dude, you're shovelling a lot of anger my way that isn't justified. Here have some tissues. You don't have to be a zero or a 1, there's more room in the middle than on the fringe. I'm not the virtual embodiment of what you've got pictured in your head my bro.

Think a bit more deeply. My example was simply to explain that you can have data proving all of your short term views.

Or in the words of ordinary citizens, "nothing stops this pain".

Tell me about yourself without telling me about yourself. All good my man. Let's check in down the track.

I love how this place is all "there's no free lunch".. and then I show them how much fundamental lunch is being consumed and they're like "shut up, it's free".

Mate, it's not a comparison it's an analogy.

I never said climate crisis, and didn't make a comment about lifestyles other than that I probably live like you do. I'm not naive. I'm also not ignoring the fact that the ocean is accumulating energy at a phenomenal rate. For fun I punched it into grok. 300 zettajoules over 50 years would take about 18.26 trillion kettles and the rate of energy increase is accelerating. What I'm really saying is, you can talk about the benefits and the reasons why its important to have energy ad nauseam, you probably won't be wrong and I'm not here to judge, but keep an eye on those two chats because they do not care about your rationale.

It's the rate of change. That's the part that matters and that the "historic levels" argument never wants to factor into their calculations. The rate of change is unbelievable.

I didn't get into to the weeds of it. Just two robust measurements. You make your own judgement, I don't want to tell you how to think about it. I actually agree with your sentiment, but there's those two measurements and then there's everything else.

The reason I like both of those charts together is because they present two sides of 1 coin, and they are extremely fundamental measurements. Account for 300 zettajoules of energy and show it's not related to a proportional increase in co2. No one has been able to do it. I'm not stating more than that as the question. I'm all for btc, I have cars, I fly, I love a steak, but I do not have my head in the sand. We're arguing over how fast we are going and what the right speed whilst in free-fall.

Yeah, still not over, still no sign that we'll stop paying for it either.

I'm really not, I'm well aware of the benefits. I'm also completely aware of the consequences you've raised. I could honestly state 20 benefits to smoking that would have verifiably accurate data in the 80's. Great social benefits, pleasant rush, conducive to thinking slow about problems, suppresses appetite.. Those are all correct facts. It's important that we don't ignore fundamentals, unless you're honestly saying that no amount of earth warming or co2 increase matters.