Anything we use criminals are going to use. Can't stop that with anything in life especially in open and permissionless systems (which is itself a defense for everyday people against even more powerful criminals). Overwhelming majority are normal users though.

Yea admittedly the UX for this stuff isn't quite there yet if you're used to exchanges. Trocador might be the easiest, quickest, and cheapest to use among these, but you're trusting a single swap provider not to freeze your funds during the swap (although they rate the chance of that happening for each swap provider). Eigen is probably the most trustless method followed by bisq/retoswap/robosats (because it's a multisig so you're relying on cooperation from arbitrators if something happens). Never had a problem with any of them myself though. Here is the latest news about Thorchain adding XMR from a few days ago. Basically they're hoping to get it out sometime in 2026 but it's privacy properties and multisig makes it a little more complicated than other blockchains to implement: https://xcancel.com/THORChain/status/2030831688532762713?s=20

I don't think it's a question of understanding. It's now normie because its in the awareness of the masses. Normies know what Bitcoin is more than ever even if it's just in a vague way and might even have some on an exchange. If you mentioned any other cryptocurrency they likely would have no clue what it was. That doesn't mean all Bitcoiners are normies though.

Hey think you can help him out? If you can't find an answer on here I would recommend going to the Monero group on SimpleX and just ask the group in general. I'm sure someone will have an answer for you. https://smp4.simplex.im/g#YdVKQcI2JIZuTzfFlQfhNg-SnNaxA73sBH1A9YY4vqE

Do you want fiat to XMR? Or crypto to XMR? Fiat to XMR: -Retoswap (Haveno) -XMRBazaar Crypto to XMR: -Trocador (Almost any crypto to XMR. Simple to use swap aggregator) -Bisq (BTC to XMR. Simple enough but you migh have to wait for someone to take your offer if you don't like any of the current rates) -Retoswap (Crypto to XMR. Same as above) -Robosats (Lightning to XMR. Same as above) -EigenWallet (BTC atomic swaps. Simple to use. Fees aren't the cheapest, but also not crazy either) All are no KYC. Thorchain and SeraiDEX are also on the horizon for easy to use crypto to XMR swaps just something to keep in mind for the future. https://retoswap.com/ https://xmrbazaar.com/search/buy-exchange/ https://trocador.app/ https://bisq.network/ https://eigenwallet.org/ https://learn.robosats.org/docs/quick-start/ https://kycnot.me/?categories=exchange&categories=aggregator¤cy-mode=or¤cies=xmr

Yea still a lot to be desired, but to be fair they're still new and in uncharted territory. Right now my expectations are tempered because of that. I'm a fan of what they're trying to do and still excited to see whats down the road though. Sure it will improve over time just have to be patient.

Sorry I just saw this. Sent you a message

I tried it with two new freshly signed up nostr accounts on different devices and it worked without a problem. Not sure why yours isn't. Try restarting and sign up with a fresh account instead of using this one? Just for troubleshooting purposes. I'm curious if it will work

Sure I just sent you a message did you get it?