Yup I also.

Yup I also!

How does primal censor? Can the caching server not be replaced (I’ve not tried I’m lazy), and what if I have my own relays configured in it? Just trying to figure out the technical side of it. Cheers!

Zero reason to take my word for it understood. However I saw was myself, clear night in Vancouver B.C. It was close enough, as it it was quite large, I could see its features clearly, neon blueish/whiteish, elliptical with curved on the “underside” (was difficult to determine with was it was actually “facing” hard to explain), to a point with a small circular tip. It didn’t make a single flutter, it traversed to sky just above me completely silently. As soon as the penny dropped in my mind that what I was actually looking at was nothing I’d ever seen, it flashed brightly emanating from the tip underneath first, then that was it, it just was gone, it didn’t fly away, it just was gone, that was the other thing that shook me, things don’t just zap out of sight, disappear before your eyes. It simply could not be mistaken for what it was, it was too close, it wasn’t something in low orbit, or at the altitude where jets fly, more like where those small planes fly, but no noise, glowing, a single substance, definitive shape (but weird geometry elliptical comes closes to describing it), and blinked out of existence before my eyes. Take it for what it’s worth, but that’s my eye witness account, and I can’t say otherwise. Whether the videos are these same things I’ve no idea. There are lots and lots of eye witness accounts now at this point as well however.

Will you bother answering my question (which I’ve asked at least twice now)? If you don’t have an answer, you can also simply say that (if I it’s within your power). You BELIEVE reason is reliable, but you don’t (appear) to be able to give a good reason for WHY it’s reliable, try give one … lay it out. Tell me how your worldview accounts for logic and reason. You’re happy to engage with Christians, up to a point it would appear however …

no joy?

I would add it was as close as those Cessna planes would fly when taking photos of the ground or showing tourists around the place like it was close as far as things fly in the sky, either that or it was actually massive.

Your worldview is so unique that no philosopher has ever considered it? So you're neither an atheist, agnostic, nor a believer? You don’t have thoughts on whether all there is “matter”, or if there are non-physical realities? You don’t have thoughts on the origins of logic, and how we can know something is truly true? etc?

Jesus is the preexisting 'logos', the one who IS (the necessary being), he's not just a person in time and space, though he is also that (Most credible relevant historians and scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus existed as a historical person. I’ve seen you suggest otherwise in other posts, so you’re incorrect about this. He existed.) 

The Greeks knew and contemplated the ‘Logos’, and the first words in the Gospel of John present Jesus as the Logos: ‘In the beginning was the Logos’. i.e., one of the prime beliefs of Christianity is that the Logos ‘incarnated’ and became flesh and bone.

Now I’m digressing, but my point is that I’m taking a step back (to go forward with you) and asking you to examine your presuppositions: you assume every day that logic and reason are a reliable means of navigating the world. Why is that? And why is it that our mind corresponds (in this regard) so well to the observable universe? Once we unpack this together, we can move forward unless you don’t have an answer to the question or, quite simply, don’t want to answer it (why?).

I’ll put it another way: you BELIEVE reason is reliable, you’ve never PROVED that it is, you BELIEVE that logic is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow, and that it will always be so, but you’ve never proved that to yourself, in any sort of empirical way. Am I wrong in saying this? If so, explain.

Because what I’m driving at is, you believe in the preexisting Logos/Reason, and you’ve never questioned it. Prove to me that I’m wrong, because if you can’t, I’m proving to you that you believe in something that has no empirical verifiability, just like “God” (classically understood), so now God is a possibility, and Jesus is “downstream” (so to say).